Monday, October 22, 2007

Day Opening - October 22

Apache girl, native American


Sincerae said...

I forget his name but I have a wonderful book in storage which is thick like a dictionary by a photographer who did hundreds of photos of Native Americans. I think this is one of his portraits. Love it!

Sincerae said...

My name is Apache in origin. It means "morningstar." When my dad named me he did not know the correct speaking so he spelled it phonetically. The correct spelling is Sonseeahray.

Since I am from Georgia I do not have Apache ancestry. I have Cherokee and possibly some Creek blood.

mirdifderya said...

Sincerae, you must look beautiful:)) I found all the Native American Girls beautiful.

I was searching Native American history with my daughter as per her homework; learned and found many things that we never knew.

Pity never been advertised to much about history about Native Americans. Because not many of you left after American's Genocide?

Sincerae said...


I am of African, Native American, and European descent. My complexion is like some of the darker Native Americans and some dark Turks too, a kind of reddish brown. Otherwise I take more after my African ancestors.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so I guess I am OK. I have been told by some people here, when I was in Africa, and Turks that I am pretty even beautiful. It could have been flattery for all I know. My entire family is mixed, with some people with green eyes. Some look even like Arabs and some Turks. There are all kinds of beauty, but the best and the most enduring is if there is beauty on the inside.

Yes, some of the Native Americans girls are quite lovely, but when they get older some of them have a tendency to get a little heavy. I don't know if it is the food here or the genetics. From a baby I have had to constantly keep an eye on my weight. I wonder sometimes if some of the battle is a result of my Native American genes.

On visiting a reservation in North Carolina not extremely far from where I live, I thought the Native American men were extremely handsome like I think Turkish men are.

Where genocide didn't kill off all of the Native people's here, alcoholism is destroying those who are left. On the reservations unemployment is often 50% or more, so the "Indians" drink.

Along with sending money a little to Africa to help two children there and to persecuted Christians in various parts of the world, I also send money to a charity that helps Lakota Sioux children. The Lakota Sioux is a Native American tribe.

Sincerae said...

Also about the Native Americans, I know that some Turkish nationalists claim that they and the Turks are related. Personally I feel that all humanity is related through a single bloodline that came from two origin people, but that is another story.

I have seen a few Turks that if they had long straight hair or two braids and some feathers on their head, they would be your stereotypical "Indian."

There is also a group of people here called the Melungeons. The Melungeon claim is that back in the 1500s some Turkish galley slaves held by the English were dropped off on the east coast of what is now the US. These slaves supposedly took Native American women for wives. I once had a National Geographic map listing all of the tribes here before the genocide. There were some painted representations of some of the better known tribes. The figure for a Cherokee was a man with a headdress that looked like a turban. He also had a mustache which is a rarity with the native peoples because like east Asians they have very little body hair so the men have difficulty growing mustaches.

Most people know "Indian" garb only from movies and think all of the Native peoples dressed the same. What is usually seen in the movies was what was worn by Plains "Indians" like the Sioux and the Arapaho with a little Apache thrown it.

I think it is an interesting coincidence that Cherokee men wore what was basically a turban. Perhaps the legend of the Turkish slaves is true.

Hans A.H.C. de Wit said...

Deryaa, since when ca you talk about Armerican Genocide and they and Armenians not about Armenian genocide..)) Gotya.

Sincerae, I never heard about a connection between Turks and native Americans. I know that the Turks in 1935 during Ataturk's republican party congress claimed that they were 'arien's simular to nazi Germany. Turkish men beautiful?..)) Never been in Holland..)))

Sincerae said...

Maybe I should visit Holland when my finances recover:)

And yes I was told by some of my Turkish students of the Turkish-Native American connection claim by Turkish nationalists. Hugh Pope talks a little about this in his book Sons of the Conquerors.

Hans A.H.C. de Wit said...

There is a busy flight between Atlanta and Amsterdam. Can dream that flight..)
Turkish nationalists can claim what they want but like waht Metin wrote 2 days ago: I get tired of the swhallowness of the nationalists in Turkey and the USA...
They claim also that they are descents of the wolves. Anyway they talk like chickens without a head.
There is a huge population in Porte Allegre (S. Brazil) with people from this area, especially Lebanon, more than 1 million people. Hugh Pope was several times quest on our 'D' business lunches as speaker...ah, you have that infamous art 301...))

Sincerae said...

True Hans,

Now I understand what my Russian friend meant when she said that nationalism is worst than racism because millions of people have lost their lives in the last 100 years or so in Europe (AND--sorry to be opening a can of worms here--I believe possibly in Turkey too) because of this disease. We have nationalism too in the US as well. Thank goodness we don't have anything like Article 301, but if we aren't very vigilant of some of our reactionaries, we could end up with something akin to it.